The following transcript is an abbreviated email exchange I had with the subject of this painting who put an ad on Craigslist looking for an artist to paint his portrait.
Me:
Hi J, I’m responding to your Craigslist ad. I believe I’m the guy for the job. You can view my work at www.tomdunn.com.au
My phone number is 323 477 9521. I look forward to hearing from you.
Kind Regards,
Tom Dunn
J:
Hi Tom,
what I like to have is a nude portrait of myself, size about 18 x 24. Please let me know how much that might cost me.
Me:
Hi J,
Would I be doing the painting from a photo or from life?
The painting would cost about $300 + materials. Did you want an oil painting or an acrylic painting?
J:
Hi Tom,
oil probably will be better. You said $300 for work/painting. How much be the canvas and stretcher? And probably 24×30 be better.
Me:
Hi J, I need to know if I will be painting from life, (as in you coming to my studio), or will you be sending me a photographs to work from?
J:
Hi Tom,
OK, find out how much that be the final price.
I am now 50, but I had a portrait of myself when I was young. I lost it and all my pics from that time.
So I would like to make composition from different pics of models. Would be better if we can meet and discus this in person. I could see your work, explain to you you what I want. I think I should model for you in the nude so you can see my body, make sketch of me and take photos. Then we can make some adjustments.
Me:
OK J. It’ll be $350 all up for a 30″ x 40″ pre-stretched canvas. This is larger than you asked for but it was cheaper than I anticipated. Can you bring half the money when you come over so I can get materials and you can give me the other half when you get the finished painting?
J:
Tom,
I am open to your suggestions about the pose: standing, seating, lying down.
How long I need to nude model for you – 3 – 5 hours? Taking photos of me posing nude is a good idea.
Yes I will bring the money and you can make a rough sketch and we will discus all the details.
Me:
Ok. But it won’t take anywhere near 3-5 hours. Sure, when you’re here I can do a rough sketch aswell. Bring all the source material you want to give me too.
J:
I will bring a CD with some models, as a suggestions what I want. How much time I need to spend with you – to discussing and modeling?
Me:
It won’t take more than an hour. I will document the progress of the painting and email you images so you can give me feedback throughout the process.
J:
I will bring $150 advance payment on Monday. I was thinking that we will work for a while for a right pose, take picture of different poses, and make a decision which one is the best. I do not like to be rush with this. After we choose our pose, I’d like to model for you in the nude so you can take o couple of pics of me and make a quick sketch. From that sketch we can start painting – without me of course. Yes I’d appreciate if we will communicate over the email during the process.
Lets take time and not be rush with finding the pose and discus the final project. So we can spend as much time as we might need, even 3, 4 hours. I prefer if we discuss the whole project on Monday so there will be not much to talk later on. I’d like to discus the pose, face expression, body details like genitals: penis and balls, lighting and color. I put on CD some photos of porn models from the internet: poses and genitals.
You will chose some pics of the guys modeling, then you make me to pose same way, take pictures and after that decide which pose will be the best for me.
I do not know which pose to choose, I rather prefer if you make that decision. You will see ma naked in person, and after I will be modeling for you in the nude you will know which pose will be the best to make me as sexy as possible.
What do you think of that?
Me:
OK- Whatever floats your boat dude. Make sure you bring at least $150 with you.
J:
I think the best will be if we review the porn models, you’ll choose several poses and make me to model the same way. After each pose you take a couple of photos of me (I like to bring my camera to have that photos). I will model for that photographs in the nude. Then we may take some time and decided in a couple of days which pose will go for painting.
I already have some pics on CD – poses and details. We choose several poses from the CD, I will model like them and you take photos of me. I’d like we take time and discus the portrait, general idea of posing and details. I will bring that CD on Monday along with $200.
[J came and posed naked sitting at my Tiki Bar. He gave me the cd he had created. The CD featured 367 pictures of naked guys. There were also 3 additional folders on the disk: 'Jay'- 44 images. 'balls'- 25 images. 'dick'- 21 images. 'spank'- 246 images.]
J:
Thanks for seeing me today. You made me be comfortable talking about that project, and modeling for you. By the way – you are fine photographer, man.
As we talked let think about the pose over night. I like the pose siting on the stool. I love the scenery around me: colorful flowers on the right, yellow wall on the right. In my opinion the seating poses fits me better. The standing pose with arms is rather some someone more athletic.
What I like are: 2, 3 – the angle of the camera shows my right hand, 15, 17, 10. The pictures show my whole body from toes up. But I like the smile on 12. Maybe there are better smiles in other pics. I just wish to seat a bit straight up, but I am not so sure about that. These poses we already have are pretty natural.
Me:
Hi J, I agree with you. Let’s go with the picture of you sitting at the Tiki-Bar.
J: [Attached image: 1 x erection.]
Hi Tom,
please tell which pose you like BETTER – the standing or seating one. If so which pic – no? If we decide the pose you think we can make the model horny with full erection? See the pic.
Me:
Hi J, Sorry if I wasn’t clear in my last email, I much prefer the sitting down at the bar photos. I have studied the photo numbers you sent me and I want to use photo 12. I agree it’s the best smile and I prefer your right hand resting on your head rather than resting on the bar.
I think the erection idea is a stroke of genius!
Also, although photo 12 is cropped at the bottom, I think it is the best photograph and I have the information from the other images to make it so that you see down to below your feet. (Unless you want the image cropped but I prefer to have the full figure in the frame.)
J:
Hi Tom,
thanks for respond. I like 112, but better to use the whole body like 117, 110. And I am pretty fat in these pics. Hope you be my Jenny Craig. What do you think about my suggestion to make a model hard? And the balls be low-hanging, covering the top of the stool. OK, lets work on 112 with a left foot in. Some other details like maybe a glass of juice or fancy drink on the bar. How about the pubic hair? Live it shaved like this or put some light auburn curl above the penis – like the statue of David?
Me: Hi J. Yes, I’ll be your Jenny Craig, that’s very witty. Also, when I said the erection was a ‘stroke of genius’, I meant that it was a very good idea and I think that is the best thing for the picture.
I think the balls hanging over the stool is a brilliant idea!
I feel the painting would be better without the pubes but I’m happy to do it if you want. Keep in mind that the erection is going to be pointing straight up and will obscure some of the pubic region anyway.
J: [Attatched image: 1 x illustration of an man spanking another man's arse with penis visible.]
Tom,
here is a drawing I mentioned. I like to have a dick with such tip and balls similar like in this pic, with some differences we talked. And of course my dick is not curved, as you could see is straight.
Me:
Hi J, When you mention the ‘tip of your dick’, are you referring to the foreskin or what you told me about the head of your penis being wider than the shaft? The reason I ask is because if it is the foreskin you are referring to, then this isn’t an issue if you are going to have an erection right? I think that the erection and the over-hanging balls are going to steal the show and the pubes and the foreskin will be more like the supporting cast.
J: [6 Attached images: 5 dick close ups and one guy masturbating while getting jizzed on by four guys.]
Hi Tom,
thanks for your email.
Of course the tip/foreskin is shown when the dick is soft. If we go for an erection the skin will cover just a half of the dick-head. Similar like in attached pics 1 and 2.
I was just thinking if the erection couldn’t be too aggressive, making that portrait a kind of porn? But I like the idea of a guy relaxing at the bar, gently smile “to the camera” and being horny, having a full erection. Yes, thhe head of the penis is wider than the shaft. Similar like in pics 3, 4, 5 and six.
J: [Attached images: 5 images of nudes with boners, non-pornographic photos of J smiling with his head resting on his hand with a pointed finger.]
Hi Tom,
no pubes needed. How about the head hair? Leave that like this or make is longer?
I am sending 5 samples of the dick, and some suggestions of head hair and my right hand in different pose. Maybe would be better not to make a fist, rather like in this pics.
What do you think? I’d like to hear from you about this.
Me:
Hi J, It’s up to you but I think the ‘fist’ hand gesture is more of a natural pose than the pointed finger. I think that this more comfortable and relaxed pose and will provide a better juxtaposition to the erection.
J: [Attached images: 5 semi-nudes. Nipples and navels are obscured in 3 of them.]
Hi Tom,
you right, I did not think of the whole picture. Let do it your way. Here a samples of navels similar to mine. If be seen. Maybe be covered by a hard penis.
And a sample of nipples.
Me:
Hi J, Thanks for the pictures of pubes, hair, dicks, navels and nipples. I have been blocking in the painting so for some of the details like hair etc I won’t have to worry about till later. What are your feelings about the dick? (Keep in mind I’ve just painted it very loosely). I want to make sure you’re happy with the size and shape of the penis because it will be a hassle changing it after I’ve painted other parts properly. I think the balls are pretty good, what do you think? Let me know about the penis size in relation to the navel. At the moment the cock ends just below the navel. Where do you think it should end? Also, what if your penis was ejaculating? It could look good if you were shooting a massive load don’t you think? Let me know your thoughts. (This can easily be added later.) I have to get the dick right before we start worrying about whether it’s going to be jizzing or not.
J: [Attached images: 34 photos of cocks and 2 non-pornographic photos of J smiling at the beach.]
Hi Tom,
thanks for that sketch. Fine pose. Like the colors. I think the body could be a bit muscular – pic 1. The dick could be a bit wider and maybe a bit longer, covering the navel. I am sending some pics to find the idea.
Also I think the balls could be bigger and hang lower – see pics. Like if the left one is significantly bigger than the right one. And the balls should be hanging down. Now looks like the balls are on the stool and kind of hanging left.
I would rather have my hair like I used to have – see my pics.
About ejaculation: how about if I’m watching a sexy boy taking a shower. I’m so excited and so horny, my dick is pretty hard and in a second will explode with a fountain of white juice? To catch the moment of excitement of just coming/cumming.
Me:
Hi J, all sounds good. I have attached a picture of the painting with the new penis size. The other stuff is fine, like the muscles, just want to get the cock right before I proceed with the rest of the body. Just let me know if the proportions are right, keep in mind they’re not painted properly yet.
J:
Sorry, I don’t think is what I want. First the dick is too big, should just touch the navel and needs to be a bit narrow. Now it looks like is circumcised. Also I like to see a bit more muscles – arms, chest, stomach. The body a bit cut in by the vast. The balls are OK now, but still I think they should lean a bit on the right tight. And I got a blue eyes.
Please make a correction. I’d like to look in the picture like I looked 20 years ago – a bit more muscle less fat. Also I got almost 8 inch dick and should not be longer. This one is like 10 or more inch.
Me:
Yeah. I mentioned in the email that I need your help to work out the proportions of the dick- (I have to get that right before I paint what’s behind it.) It would help if you could just keep your mind on cock for now. The rest is not painted yet, I need to get the dick correct first. Blue eyes aren’t relevant yet as I haven’t painted the eyes. I have re-painted the cock smaller- is it still too large?
J: [Attached images: 1 x dick close up. 1 x image of the first painting I sent him that he refers to my 'first drawing.']
Hi Tom,
thank your for showing me the new sizes of a dick and balls. Now I can see that the genitals should be a equal part of the picture, not the no. 1, the one which takes the whole attention. So lets go to square one: your first drawing – see attachment. Just the dick a little bit wider or leave like that. I think if fine if we can see the navel which is a hole in my belly. Also maybe a little bit bigger the left ball and the sack hanging a bit lower.
Make a skin on my dick-head similar like this – att. 2
Me:
Alright. I’ll make the dick to your new specifications (sort of exactly how it was.) I’ll do more work on the painting and send some pics soon. Don’t worry, it’s going to be a fucking masterpiece. Can you think of a title? What about ‘J Looking At A Sexy Boy In Shower While Seated Naked at the Tiki Bar With An Erection?’
J: I am glad to hear you enjoy painting this picture. I also like to have it as your masterpiece, just make the right proportions of genitals and other parts.
I haven’t think about the title. Maybe something like: Jay’s excitement; Relaxing of excitement; J relaxing at the nude bar. If that be nude bar, maybe that should be part of some other naked guy?
If the painting will be good enough I do not mind if you include it in your portfolio.
Let me see the new pic, more muscular body, longer hair.
Me:
Hi J, Nice title suggestions and thanks for potentially allowing me to use an image of this painting in my portfolio. As you can see from my artwork, it’s important for me that I only use images of a person when I have their express permission to do so. What do you think of this cock? (Just the proportions- not painted yet). I need to get this right before I go on….
J:
Lets make it a bit shorter so we can see the navel. About the thickens and length of the dick I’d like to have your opinion. I think that this dick shouldn’t take the all attention, should be just a part of the picture. What I mean – this not should be a pornographic pic to be hanged in gay bar restroom. Rather a pic you may see at the museum exhibition. Maybe you ask your friends of their opinion about the pic and the size of the penis. I just see a small photo, maybe in bigger picture looks different.
There is one other thing I’d like to talk to you. I saw on your web you are interested in spanking. I would like to have some pic of getting spank so I included in the CD a folder of spanking.
But first lets finish the Bar one.
Me:
Hi J, I consulted 15 artist friends of mine and based on their feedback this is what I came up with regarding the penis. Let me know what you think.
J: [Attached images: 2 nude men.]
Hi Tom,
I think is still a bit too long, but if you think is OK lets leave it like that. I wish the left ball of the model be a bit bigger then his right. Also I would like the have the body a bit muscular like the guys in this pics, but not much like them. I like the smile of the model in pic 2_7. Are you nearly finished?
Me:
Hi J, I had hoped to have the painting done by now but it’s been a longer process than I imagined. It’s getting there.
J: [Attached images: 25 x men getting spanked]
J:
Hi Tom,
As I mentioned to you I also like to get a pic of getting spank. Something smaller and simpler – not so much about background. I would like to discus with you the pose, the face expression, blisters on my butt, and so on. I have some ideas how it should looks, but first, as we did before, Iet’s to discus a couple of options. Then at the meeting we arrange the spanking situation and you take a few photos of me.
The most important is the position. I’d like some of them and want you to help me choose the one. I like the best the first positions when we can see butt, genitals and face. But the others – standing, bending are fine too. Which ones you like? I’d like to discus the project over the email before we meet for a final arrangement, setting a spanking situation, take pictures.
I sent you a few pics of spanking poses. I would like you to help me to choose the fines one. Nothing rush.
Me:
Hi J. It’s done. Let’s figure out a time for you to pick it up and we can discuss the spanking project. Because this portrait was a lot harder than I anticipated due to the unexpected difficulty that arose I’m afraid my fee will have to be a lot stiffer for the next painting. Let me know what you think.
To Be Continued……………?
